Everywhere you turn traditional Christian values are under attack. Why is it that these values are attacked for not being "tolerant" when, by the very nature of the attack is itself intolerant?
Its a double standard these days. Its like when Darth Vader said "Join us or die".
That seems to be the attitude among liberal theologians, politicans, media spin doctors & talking heads, college professors, the ACLU, race activist, and a host of others!
If you agree with them then youre doing your part as a contributing citizen but if you try to hold yourself to a higher standard that rejects the very sin nature that liberalism promotes then youre just a bigot and a hypocrite. They go STRAIGHT to the name calling the second you disagree. They say they are the ones who are being tolerant when in fact they are the ones being the bigots and hypocrites. Actions speak louder than words dont you think?
OK just to clarify a few things….
First being liberal is not necessarily political.
Second being Christain doesnt mean youre Republican.
Please keep this in mind if you answer.
This is a philosophical idealism question, not a politcal one.
Sorry if its in the wrong category but it kind of fits
Christian values are not under attack. Christian values can be found anywhere in today’s society from tv shows like 7th Heaven to movies like "Bruce Almighty," "The Truman Show," and even "The Matrix" trilogy. There are many religious Liberals, myself included. What I have a problem with is Christian hypocrisy. If you say you’re a Christian, then ACT like one. Actions DO speak louder than words, so don’t just ask yourself "What would Jesus do," DO what Jesus would have DONE!
Liberalism doesn’t promote sin or intolerance, those are just your biased opinions of something which you know very little. If Christians want to be respected, then they need to respect other religions and their followers and the same goes for those other religions. Give respect to receive respect. It’s that simple.
Just ask that question to the Dems or Libs…
I know that most people that follow the anti-moral system or conservative ways are because the’re just followers of the Libs. They can’t think on their own. These Libs with the help of the media brainwash them.
We need to remember that morals is what makes up a good person.
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bushgod melted the flesh of iraqi babies with whiskey pete. praise be to god.
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Sin is for people who believe in sin. For the rest of us, it’s called making choices. So get off the cross Mary, somebody needs the wood. When did America become about imposing your invisible sky god on everyone else? I thought that’s what the terrorists wanted to do. I don’t know which group of religious zealots is the bigger threat to America’s freedoms. The enemy at the gate or the traitors within.
Sure Ruth, right after you people stop expecting everyone else to live by your wacky superstitions, give them special treatment and pay for there operation.
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I guess they get turned off when they find out that your idea of "holding yourself to a higher standard" involves running their lives for them and telling them what they should and shouldn’t be able to do with their own bodies, thoughts and lives.
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It grew from the ’60’s hippies. When they began to become politically active things started to seriously go down-hill.
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It’s the cult of Victim v. Oppressor. White Christian culture is the longstanding dominant majority in the US. Therefore, white Christian culture is necessarily evil and must be erradicated before the dream of equality can be achieved for everyone else.
ADDED: LOL I am not catching on slowly, dearie. I’ve been watching this nonsense take hold in public education for most of my 40 years. Hold on to your seats, because I will fight you every step of the way!
ADDED: Holy Cow–please post an example of my expectations that you uphold my superstitions. Intellectual honesty demands it. I advocate for the US Constitution to be upheld, along with proper interpretation which does not involve judicial legislation or a minority forcing its will upon the majority with the help of the ACLU.
But know this: I will not sit quietly by while homosexual marriage and continued wholesale abortion desensitizes our society. You can do it, but I will never let it be said that you did it while I sat on my hands in fear.
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Holy Cow, I have no problem if you want to redefine sin as "making choices," as long as you are willing to accept some personal responsibility for those choices. But no, everyone has to pay, right?
What…? I believe in God. I’m Catholic. I’m a Democrat. I have many friends who are Democrats and who believe in God… Stop making these stupid accusations. Its just like saying "Does Bush hate kids for vetoing the bill?" Of course he doesn’t… Its so stupid to say things like that.
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You are out of your mind, pal. In case you haven’t noticed, our country is currently run by a guy who is an ultra-right wing wacko, corrupt, and about as immoral as can be. We fraudulently invade another country and kill thousands of people so he can enrich his oil buddies in Texas. If you hear alot of shrill voices from the left, it’s only because the extreme right has become so corrupt, unethical and hypocritical. I suppose Sen. Larry Craig would be a good example of your GOP/chrisitan values?
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Ex- republican
Perhaps because you post on the UK website? And your in America
So I guess your talking out your a*ss
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Well, first of all; not all liberals are haters of Christianity! There are some who do believe in God and are active church members. So I would not call ALL Liberals "Godless"! I disagree with the way alot of them believe yes! But not all of them are these "evil" "God hating" people that some of the republicans believe. There are bad apples in all forms of government. Although I disagree with the way most liberals are; I don’t need to judge all of them as mentioned above. A believer in Christ knows that all who want to be apart of his kingdom are welcome!
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Why are Christians always such victims? I think Ruth may be catching on slowly.
Since you caught on to the ‘liberalism’ is necessarily political and that Christian doesn’t equate to republican, why can you figure out that liberalism doesn’t equal godless? That’s call athiesm. They are not the same thing. Atheists make up 11% of the population and are growing. Why? People like you and the fact the there is no god.
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Christian values are not under attack. Christian values can be found anywhere in today’s society from tv shows like 7th Heaven to movies like "Bruce Almighty," "The Truman Show," and even "The Matrix" trilogy. There are many religious Liberals, myself included. What I have a problem with is Christian hypocrisy. If you say you’re a Christian, then ACT like one. Actions DO speak louder than words, so don’t just ask yourself "What would Jesus do," DO what Jesus would have DONE!
Liberalism doesn’t promote sin or intolerance, those are just your biased opinions of something which you know very little. If Christians want to be respected, then they need to respect other religions and their followers and the same goes for those other religions. Give respect to receive respect. It’s that simple.
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http://itsyourworld-changeit.blogspot.com
I hardly know where to begin to tell you how wrong you are on nearly every count. First of all, not all liberals are "godless". Many believe in God just as much as you do, but they believe in a God who is lovng and forgiving, not cruel and intolerant. They believe in loving your neighbor, even your enemy, and in doing unto others as you would have them do unto you. You right-wing extremists seem to have selective memory when it comes to what Jesus said, and you take scriptures out of context to justify your bigotry and intolerance. You discriminate against minorities in the name of false piety, then scream that you’re being persecuted whenever anyone asks you to put a stop to your persecution. That is the height of hypocrisy.
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I had to laugh when I saw saw your update saying this isn’t a political question. Come on, you posted it under Politics and you’re virtually quoting Ann Coulter. She wrote a book called "Godless" and I’d be willing to bet you have it on your coffee table. She has almost as many dittoheads as Rush Limbaugh.
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ummm… since when did Christians think they have a right to this country.. I don’t remember reading that in the Constitution. And pardon me, but how can Christianity be under attack when it is the religion of the vast majority of the country? Its the fundamentalist outlook and extremism that is under attack and rightfully so. The agenda to proselytize the country in the name of Jesus is unAmerican and disrespectful.
Practice your religion, by all means. Give glory where it is due. But keep it out of the political arena. They do not attack the religion, they attack the people who think that everyone who does not conform to their religion is an evil person.
Laws should not be made based on biblical thinking. Stripping people of rights is unAmerican. And before you say that the judicial system is based on the ten commandments, youre wrong. The idea of murder, theft etc. being wrong is older than Judeo-Christian history. So, when will religious conservatives stop trying to compel their religion and thier views on the country and the public, instead of keeping their religion a private matter the way its supposed to be is the question.
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It’s hard to pinpoint as it was a gradual process. Ironically, it may be one of the best examples of a true ’slippery slope.’
You could trace it all the way back to the Revolution. America’s ‘founding fathers’ – conservative and religious as they may look today, they did disavow the idea of establishing a state religion, for instance, and some of them were Deist (one step removed from Atheism in the eyes of the devout), or belonged to ‘cults’ like the Quakers. Some objected to slavery.
The cultural changes they set in motion led to Abolition and the Civil War. The same people who supported Abolition went on to support women’s sufferage and the socio-political heirs of the suffragettes started the civil rights movement, which opened the floodgates of social change for the hippies and liberals of the baby boom generation who have "taken over American landscape."
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ALL of organized religion was created by man to control man!!
Maybe you need this for comfort but nothing found in organized religion comforts me at all!
Whatever really happens to us after we die will never be known until we die.
Until that time I plan on living my Earthly life as I choose!
No one, not one person was born with a direction’s manual!
Live this life to the fullest everyday of your life!
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Oh man. Did someone fall off the short bus this morning with this rant, or what?
Let me guess: It’s good "Christian" values when a Republican lies, cheats, and steals from Joe Bob American, but it’s immoral when Clinton gets a BJ from a woman?
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You seem to be serious. Equating godlessness to liberalism is stretching a metaphor to it’s limits. All Conservatives are not Christians. All Liberals are not atheists. It’s like (another metaphor) saying martinis have too much gin in them and not enough beer.
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Just don’t pounce.Please,enough with the pouncing.
For one thing you can’t legislate morality. An don’t forget, the KKK call themselves Godly Christians who are just doing God’s work by trying to rid the world of everyone who is not a so called white person and think the way they think. There are too many in America who use Christianity to cloak their ugly evil motives..
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Not all liberals are Godless and some conservatives are. I have a conservative friend who is an atheist and I highly doubt all the closet homosexuals in the Republican party are all that Christian either. I don’t believe either party really lives up to Christian values, but I believe liberals have more Christian values than conservatives do. Liberals want to help the poor, resolve conflicts in a peaceful manner, and believe everyone should be treated equally. There’s nothing more Christian than that. Conservatives, on the other hand, believe people should help themselves, believe it is right to kill–although the Bible says it’s not–when necessary, and the prefer rich white people over all else. You’re traditional Christian values aren’t under attack by liberals, they’re under attack by you and all the conservatives you love and trust. I’m not being intolorant. As I have said before, I have conservative friends and I myself have conservative beliefs, but you’re criticism of liberalism is completely ridiculous. My only hope is that Heaven and Hell does exist so you can see what the value of life really is.
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Well, I don’t think you’re right that, but the more educated people are, the more the tend to lean to the left and stop worshiping gods based on ancient literature.
I am tolerant of people’s views, but I am intolerant of people who say things about the world and me without knowing anything. So many people from the right will make outrageous claims about the world without any knowledge. There is a huge difference between respecting someone’s beliefs in God and respecting their wishes to have all gays locked up, ignore medical research based on ONLY THEIR VIEWS. I think the Christians of this country are generally arrogant. If you don’t like something, don’t do it or involve yourself. But Christians don’t follow that logic; they try to push the govt. to pass laws based on their religious. I’m sorry, but God is not proven, there is zero evidence. It’s based on hope. Hope is a good thing, but not something to live your life by because the rest of us are dealing with reality and people like you are getting your cues on integrity from the clouds. I say you grow up, stop blaming others and deal with reality for a change. If you want to live in a country controlled and ruled by religion then I suggest you relocate to the Middle East.
Liberals are educated. Liberals care about the truth.
Cons could care less about the truth. Cons only care about their emotional belief and refuse to allow reason or rational thought to sway their opinion. Libs on the other hand are open to facts, but thus far, you and all of your God groupies have yet to provide any proof for your values with the exception of 2000 work of fiction – the bible.
Stop judging the world by only what you see on tv. Get out a meet some people are liberals. You’ll notice they the least hateful, least violent people around. They will listen and then provide you with reasons why they disagree. Where as the Cons will get angry, violent and ALWAYS resort to childish name calling. I can go toe-to-toe with any Con because I know what I’m talking about and my views are consistent. Generally speaking, the Conservative/Republican views contradict one another, which hurts your credibility as to why you actually believe what you believe.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get an education. For example, listen to what the other side is saying. Read what they believe. Don’t rely on your people to provide information on the Liberal agenda because they’re wrong.
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I am a Democrat and a Christian. And you reflect the hate and intolerance that Rush Limbaugh has taught you. Don’t try to tell me what I believe, or what anyone else believes. You don’t know, even if Rush tells you so.
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I would rather die serving my lord than to live without him.
I know alot of people criticize the catholic church about abortions, condoms, etc. That we should be more understanding to the changing time. The truth is times didn’t change, there has always been prostitutes (Mary Magdalene), murders (Cane killed his own brother), and egotistical leaders wanting to abolish something because they feel threatened by it (Jesus’s Crucifixion). The only thing that has changed is technology. These bad doers now have more access us. But we keep telling our children it’s OK to have sex, it’s OK to kill, just plead insane.
Well guess what? It’s not OK.
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Shortly after people realized that imaginary friends shouldn’t dictate social policy.
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. ~ Susan B. Anthony
Couldn’t say it any better myself.
Wow, if you wonder why Christians have such a bad reputation, read Ruth’s answer. Threatening people with violence because she can’t impose her version Christianity on them. Speaks volumes.
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During The War For Independence from Britain.
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I’m tolerant and have no issue if people have different beliefs than others.
the issue is when people try to get their beliefs legislated.
so many people with so called ‘traditional values’ aren’t tolerant of others and try to pass laws against them. they even sling around words such as ‘godless’ even though many people simply view god in a different light or worship a different god(s) than they do.
believe what you want- just don’t make any laws that do anything beside protect people (and their property) from other people.
1luv- in 1959 the church said Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute and made her a saint.
know the religion you practice!
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I can’t put a time frame on it, but I think it happened slowly, when folks decided they didn’t want to work too hard at holding high standards (to do so means patience and sacrifice), so their solution became to bring others down to try and elevate themselves. Happens all the time in pop culture.
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